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            凤凰文化出品

            余秀华:小时候担心原子弹会不会把我炸了|凤凰网独家

            2017-07-11 14:08:36 凤凰网文化 魏冰心

            余秀华,图片来源:纪录片《摇摇晃晃的人间》

            采访、撰文|魏冰心

            YUXIUHUAZUICHUBEIDAJIAKANDAOSHI,CHUANZHEYIJIANDAHONGSEDEYURONGFU,HONGSEFUHEDAJIADUITADECHILIE、GUNTANGDEYINXIANG,HOULAICHUBANDESHIJI《WOMENAIGUOYOUWANGJI》FENGMIANSHANG,ZAIMAOMITIANYELIZHANGKAISHOUBEIDENVREN,YECHUANZHEHONGYI。

            ZHEIJIANHONGSEYURONGFU,SHIYINWEISANNIANDUOZHIQIANYAOLAIBEIJING,YUXIUHUADEMAMATEYIDAITADAOZHENSHANGMAIDE,MEIJIJIAMAIYIFUDEDIAN,XUANLAIXUANQUBUSHIHEIDEJIUSHIHUIDE,YUSHIJIUTIAOLEGENENDIANERDE,HONGSEDE,YE“LIANGYANYIDIAN”。GUOBUQIRAN,ZHEIJIANHONGSEYURONGFUXUNSUZHUAZHULEDAJIADEYANQIU,TAJIHUCHUXIANZAILEDANGSHIGENYUXIUHUAYOUGUANDESUOYOUBAODAOLI,JINGYIDIBUJINGYIDI,TAXIANGYIGEXIANYANDEANSHI,ANSHITADELAITUYUQULU。

            信用棋牌“WOGANGCHULAIDESHIHOUHAISHIFEICHANGTUQIDE,XIANZAIHAOYIDIANLE。”YUXIUHUAHEWOBINGPAIZUOZAIHUIYISHIZHANGZHANGDEZHUOZIQIAN,CHUANYIJIANHUASEXIEJINQIPAO,GAILIANGGUODEKUANSONGKUANSHI,BUCHONGDAO。

            一些鸡蛋

            2014NIAN12YUE17RI,YUXIUHUADIYICIYISHIRENDESHENFENCHUXIANZAIBEIJING,CANJIA《SHIKAN》WEITACEHUADEYICHANGWURENSHIGELANGSONGHUI。FENGHUANGWANGDUSHUPINDAOYESHIZHEICHANGLANGSONGHUIDEZHUBANFANGZHIYI,WOJIDENEISHIGEGONGZUORI,WUFANSHIZHUBIANSHUOTAYAOQURENMINDAXUECANJIAYIWEI“NAOTANNVSHIREN”DELANGSONGHUI。YOUGETONGSHIWENLEJUSHENMESHI“NAOTAN”,DANHENKUAIZHEIGEHUATIJIUZHONGJIELE,WOMENZHUANERLIAOLEXIEBIEDE,JIEZHEWOHETONGSHIHUIBANGONGSHI,ZHUBIANBEIZHESHUBAOQUDITIEZHAN。

            信用棋牌JIBIANSHIDUIYUXIUHUAHUAIYOUSHIERFENSHANYIDE《SHIKAN》,ZAIZUICHUDEXUANCHUANLI,YESHIYONGLE“NAOTAN”ZHEIGEBIAOQIAN。ZHEIGESHIDAITAIBUQUEXINWENLE,RUGUOMEIYOUSHENCANZHIJIANDEDICENGRENSHEHE“CHUANGUODABANGEZHONGGUOQUSHUINI”DESONGDONGBIAOTI,YUXIUHUAKENENGYIRANZAIBOKESHANGJIMODIXIEZHESHI,MEIYOUYINZHETAMINGZIDESHU,MEIYOUYITAWEIZHUJIAODEHUOJIANGJILUPIAN。

            信用棋牌《SHIKAN》BIANJILIUNIANZAIYIPIANHOUJILITIQI,LAIBEIJINGCANJIALANGSONGHUIDESHIHOU,YUXIUHUATILEYIXIEJIDAN。ZHEISHIWOZAIGUANYUYUXIUHUADEGUSHILITINGDAODE,ZUIPOSUGANRENDEXIJIE。ZHANZAIMAMASHENBIAN,TIZHEJIDANDEYUXIUHUABUZHIDAOJIEXIALAIDERENSHENGHUIYINGLAISHENME,NEIYIKE,ZHIXIANGDUIFABIAOZIJISHIGEDEBIANJIBIAOSHIGANXIE。

            信用棋牌JINIANGUOQU,YUXIUHUAGENGDUOSHIHOUBEIMIAOSHUCHENGYIGEFANPANZHE,BINGLAIJIANGDANG、SHUILAITUYAN。GENWOJIANMIANSHI,TAZIJIXIANDAQU,“YANGLAOSHISHUOLE,JINTIANBUXUDUIJIZHEHUSHUOBADAO,BUXUSHUO‘TAMADE’,BUXUSHUO‘FANGPI’。”

            TAZUILIDEYANGLAOSHI,SHITADEBIANJIYANGXIAOYAN。YUXIUHUADEDIYIBENSHIJI《YUEGUANGLUOZAIZUOSHOUSHANG》CHUANGZAOLECHUBANJIEDEYIGEJILU,CONGQUEDINGXUANTIDAOXIAYINCHANG,JINYONGLE9TIAN。ZHEIBENSHUDEZEBIANSHISHIRENTUSHUPINPAI“LIXIANGGUO”DAZHONGGUANZHUBIANDEYANGXIAOYAN,HOULAIYANGXIAOYANLIZHIQULELINGJIACHUBANJIGOU,YUXIUHUAYOULEXINSHU,YEHAISHIJIAOJITALAIZUO。

            余秀华

            信用棋牌SHENGHUOSHANG,YANGXIAOYANSHIYUXIUHUADEHAOPENGYOU,“YANGLAOSHI”、“YULAOSHI”ZHEIYANGHUXIANGCHENGHU。YANGXIAOYANSHUO:“ZHIQIANYOUJIAMEITIZHUDONGLAICAIFANGYULAOSHI,KANDAOWOJIYULAOSHIBUWAZI,JIUBAZHEIGEXIJIEXIEJINQU。YULAOSHIDESHENTIZHUANGKUANGZAINEIER,TAZIJIBUBULEWAZI,ZHEIYANGZUOQISHIHENZHENGCHANG。NEIPIANGAOZIDEDAOXIANGWOJUEDEYOUDIANWENTI……”YANGXIAOYANXIWANGMEITIGENGDUODIBAZHUYILIFANGZAIYUXIUHUADEZUOPINSHANG,ERBUSHIYIWEIQIANGDIAOQITADE。

            YUXIUHUABENRENDAOSHIBUHUIBIRENHEWENTI,SUIZHETAWEIGENGDUORENSUOZHIXIAO,GEZHONGZHENGYIJIEZHONGERZHI。YUXIUHUAZOUQILULAIHUIYINWEIPINGHENGWENTIQINGXIESHENTI,YUDAOPIPINGHEZHIYI,TAFANERTINGZHILESHENZI,ZHENGMIANYINGJI。

            信用棋牌“BUGUANNIXIEDEBIWOHAO,HAISHIBUBIWOHAO,NIDOUMEIYOUZIGEPIPINGWO。NIDUIYIGERENGENBENBULEJIE,SHENZHIBUDUTADESHIGE,NINALAIDEQUANLILAIPIPING?NIMEIYOU。”SHUODAOJINNIANNIANCHUGENLAOYIBEISHIRENSHIZHIDEFENGBO,YUXIUHUAHAISHIYILIANDEBUFEN。

            信用棋牌“LVLVHUIJISHIWEILEBAOHUZIJIMA?”WOWENTA。

            “BUSHI,ZUIHAODEBAOHUSHIBUSHUOHUA,YINWEIYISHUOHUAJIUHUIYINLAIGENGDUOSHENGYIN。DANWODEXINGGEZUOBUDAOBUSHUOHUA。”SHUOZHEIHUASHIYUXIUHUAZHAILEYANJING,YANQIANDESHIJIEMOMOHUHU。

            海子的诗有语病

            《无端欢喜》,余秀华著

            YUXIUHUAZHEICILAIBEIJING,SHIWEILEXUANCHUANZIJIDEDIYIBUSANWENJI《WUDUANHUANXI》。YOUDIAN“FOXI”DEMINGZI,FENGMIANSHANGYINYIKEKAILEHUADEXIANRENZHANG,RUGUOBUSHIYUXIUHUASUOXIE,KONGPAYAOBEIDANGZUOJITANGWENLE。HENQIMIAO,YUXIUHUAYOUZHONGXIAOJIECIYUDENENGLI,“YONGHENG”、“KUIZENG”、“LIZAN”,ZHEIXIEQITAZUOJIAJUEDETUDIAOZHADEBIAOTI,TADOUDADAFANGFANGYONGLE,YONGDEZIRANBINGQIEHOUZHONG。

            RENMENXIANGWENDEGEZHONGWENTI,TALVXIANYIYIZAISHULIXIEHAOLE。

            GUANYUAIQING,SHI:“WOBUZHIDAOGAIQUMAIYUANSHEI,ZUIHOUHAISHIHENWOZIJI,HENWODECHOULOUHECANJI,ZHEIYANGDEXUNHUANRANGWOZAICHENSHILIBEIAIXINGZOU:YIGEGESUBUKENAIDENANRENDOUWUFAXIHUANWO,ZHENSHISHIBAI。”

            信用棋牌GUANYULIHUN,TAMINGQUEXIEZHE:“ZHEIYIBEIZI,WOCONGLAIMEIYOUSHENMEMENGXIANG,YEDUISHENGHUOMEIYOUZHIWANG。RUGUOYIDINGYAOSHUOCHUYIGE,NEIJIUSHILIHUN。ZHEIJINIANDEXINGYUNHERONGGUANG,ZUIHAODESHIQINGJIUSHILIHUN。”

            GUANYUSHENTI:“WOGANJUEYOUYIDIANJUSANG:WORUCIYINYIWEIAODEWANGSHENGDEXINGYUQISHIHEHENDUORENSHIYIYANGDE。”

            WENZHANGXIEYU2015NIAN-2017NIAN,DAZHISHICHENGMINGSANNIANYILAIDESHENGHUOJILU。ZHEIQIJIAN,LIHUN,MUQINQUSHI,TABAZHEIXIEBIANGUYUBIANHUADAILAIDEXINLIGANSHOUXIEXIA,KANQILAIHAOWUBAOLIU。

            YICITACONGBEIJINGZUOFEIJIDAOWUHAN,SHENSHANGBEIZHELIANGGEBAO,XINQINGBUHAO,ZOUDEGEWAIJIANNAN,SHUAILEYIJIAO。TAXIE:“WOXIANGXINGKUIWOMAMAMEIYOUGENZHEWO,TARUGUOKANJIANLE,GAIRUHEXINTENG?ERTA,ZAIYEBUHUIGENZHEWOLE,XUDUORIZI,WOZAIRENQUNLIMEIYOUKANDAOGUOYIGEGENTAXIANGXIANGDEREN,TAJIUZHEIYANGLIKAILEWO,LIKAIDERUCICHEDI,RUCIJUEJUE。” DULAIRANGRENLUOLEI。ZHEIPIANWENZHANGHOULAIQUMING《BUZHIZUILENGSHIHEQING》,QIZHONGJIANGDAOFUQINZAIMUQINGUOSHIHOUBUJIU,ZHAOLEGEQINGREN。

            信用棋牌KEYIDANNINAZHESHULIDEDONGXIZAIQUWENTA,TAQUEBUYUANYIRENZHENDUIDAILE。WOJUCHUSHULIDEYIGEGUANDIAN,TASHUO:“WONEISHIXIAXIEDE,ZAOJIUWANGLE。”WOYOUDIANJINGYA,XUANJIYOUYOUDIANMINGBAI,TASHIYIDUIDAIWENXUEDETAIDUZAIDUIDAIZIJIDEZUOPIN,ERWOMENDADUOSHUREN,ZONGXIANGBANEIDANGZUOTADESHENGHUO。

            《WOYANGDEXIAOGOU,MINGJIAOXIAOWU》SHIYUXIUHUABIJIAOCHUMINGDEYISHOUSHI。ZUIZAOZAIRENMINDAXUEDEJIAOSHILI,TAZHANZAIJIANGTAISHANGQUANSHENZHANDOUZHELANGDUDE,YESHIZHEISHOU。

            信用棋牌YINWEIZHEISHOUSHI,RENMENFENFENYIWEITACHANGNIANCHENGSHOUJIABAO。QIANFUSHINONGMIN,ZAIGONGDISHANGGANTILIHUO,MEISHENMEWENHUA,ERYUXIUHUASHENTIYOUYANG,DIANQIZAIQINGQIAODEBISHOUDOUHUIDOU,YIQIANGYIRUO,JIASHANGTIEZHENGRUSHANYIYANGDESHIJU,MEICUOLE,YUSHIBIAOTILIDAIYOU“YUXIUHUA”HE“JIABAO”DEWENZHANGWANGLUOSHANGYIZHUAYIDABA。

            信用棋牌QISHIYUXIUHUAZIJICONGMEIZHEIMESHUOGUO,YOUJIZHEJIU“JIABAO”FAWEN,YUXIUHUAHUIDASHUO:“TAGANDAWO?”KOUWENSUIRANPOLA,QUEYESHIDUIZHEIGEKENENGHUIJIQIANFUDAILAIEMINGDEWENTIDEHUAJIE。TAHENXIANGGENQIANFULIHUN,BUXIHUADIAOXINXINKUKUZHUANLAIDEGAOFEI,DANMEIYOUTOUWENXUEZHIJIBATIANCHENGLAXIANGZIJIZHEIYIBIAN。

            信用棋牌HAOQIYUXIUHUAXIEZUOSHANGDESHICHENG,WOKAIKOUWENTADUGUONAXIESHU。

            YIQIANYINWEIQIONG,BUGANXIAHUAQIAN,SHUKANDEHENSHAO,XIANZAIYOULEYIXIEQIAN,KANDEYEBUDUO,TASHUO:“XIANGTAMENYOURENSHUOYINIANKANJIBAIBENSHU,WOXINXIANG,WOYINIANKANJIBENJIUBUCUOLE。”YIDINGYAOSHUOCHUGEMINGZIDEHUA,SHIHAIZI。DANYUXIUHUAMASHANGYOUSHUO:“HOULAIWOKANCHULETASHIGEDEHENDUOMAOBING,YOUBUXIHUANLE。”

            HAIZIDESHIYOUSHENMEMAOBING?

            “YOUBINGJUNIDOUKANBUCHULAIMA?”TAFANWEN。

            不加微信

            余秀华

            YUXIUHUAGENWOLIAOQIJIACHANG。

            信用棋牌ERZIGANGGANGDAXUEBIYE,YIJINGZAIWUHANZHAODAOLEGONGZUO;MAMAQUSHILE,YUXIUHUAGENBABAJIXUSHENGHUOZAIHENGDIAN——BUSHINEIGEMEINIANJIEDAIJIBAIGEJUZUDEYINGSHIJIDIHENGDIAN,ERSHIWEIYUHUBEIZHONGXIANGSHISHIPAIZHENDEHENGDIANCUN——XIANZAIDOUSHISHEHUIZHUYIXINNONGCUNLE,TAMENZHUJINXINFANGZI,JIALIDEDIBEIZHENGSHOU,BABAYEBUYONGZHONGDI,ERSHIZAIJIAFUJINSHANGBAN,YITIAN8GEXIAOSHI,ZAIBIERENDEPUTAOYUANLICHUCAODANONGYAO。BABAHENQINKUAI,CHULESHANGBANHAIZAIYUTANGLIYANGYU,JIALIDEKONGDISHANGZHONGZHECAI。YIRISANCAN,BABAZUOJITACHI。

            BUXIANGZUIZAOCHUMINGSHIHOUNEIYANGTIANTIANBEIJIZHEWEIDU,DANRENGSHICHANGYOUBURENSHIDERENLAIKANTA,QIANJITIANHAIYOUGECONGRUIDIANGUOLAIDELAOTAITAI,70DUOSUILE,DAIZHEYIGEFANYI。ZHEIXIERENBUQINGZILAI,DAOCUNLIYIWEN,JIUZHIDAONAGESHIYUXIUHUAJIA。YEBUGANBIEDE,JIULIAOLIAOTIAN,“LIAOLIAOTIANJIUZOULE。”

            YUXIUHUAXUEHUILEZAITAOBAOSHANGMAIYIFU,BUXIHUANCHUANKUZHUANG,XIHUANLIANYIQUN,HUADE、CHUNSEDE、DILINGDE、DIAODAIDE,TONGTONGJINGGUOKUAIDIXIAOGEZHISHOUCONGZUGUODESIMIANBAFANGYUNLAI。

            信用棋牌ZHIYUXIEZUO,TATANYANJINNIANYIZHIGUODEBIJIAOWEIMI,QICHUANGDESHIJIANHENSHAO,DABUFENSHIJIANDOUZAICHUANGSHANGHAOZHE,SHENTIBUTAIHAO,JINGSHENYEKUNJUAN,DONGXIXIEDESHAO。

            信用棋牌BUDAKANTAWENZHANGDEBABALAOSHIDANXINTA,TABUJIEHUN,DENGZIJIYELIKAILE,TAYAOZENMEBAN,SHEILAIZHAOGUTA?

            信用棋牌“WOHAIYOUERZINI!XINGKUIWOSHENGLEGEERZI。”YUXIUHUAJUEDEYIHOUDESHIQINGYIHOUZAISHUO,YANXIAKEBUXIANGZAIJIEHUN。

            信用棋牌CAIFANGGUOCHENGZHONGYUXIUHUADEDIANHUAXIANGLE,TAHAOBUYOUYUDIJIETING,HAIKAILEMIANTI。TONGWANHUATAJIESHAOSHUOZHEISHI《SHIKAN》ZHANGDEHENSHUAIDEYIWEIBIANJI,HAIWENWORENBURENSHI。

            信用棋牌ZUOCAIFANGZHIQIAN,JIZHETONGCHANGHUIZHUNBEIYILIANGGENUANCHANGWENTI,YIBIANGENCAIFANGZHEJIANLIYUKUAIDELIAOTIANQIFEN。ZHEICICAIFANG,CHANGSHIYUXIUHUANUANDE。GANGZUOXIA,YUXIUHUAJIUSHUO,“AIYA,NIZENMEZHEIMEBAI!BUKANLE,TAIBAILE。”SHUOZHEJIUBAYANJINGZHAIXIA,GEZAIZHUOZISHANG。TACHONGZHEWOWEIXIAO,YANPISHUANGDEHENHAOKAN。

            YICHANGFANGTANJIAYIDUNWUCAN,WOZHIDAOLETAYONGSHOUJIXIAOXIAODEPINGMUKANWANLEDABUTOUDE《BEICANSHIJIE》,ZHIDAOLETADIERTIANWANSHANGDEFANJUYOUJIGERENGUOLAI,SHENZHIZHIDAOLETAYONGDEHUAZHUANGPINPAIZIJIAO“DUOLADUOSHANG”……ZIXINYIJINGGENYANQIANDECAIFANGDUIXIANGFEICHANGQINJIN,LINBIESHIWODADANTICHU:“JIAGEWEIXINBA?”

            TAJUJUELE。

            信用棋牌QISHI,CAIFANGSHIWOHAIWENLETAYIGEWENTI——NIJUEDEYOURENZHENZHENGDILEJIENI,ZOUJINGUONIDENEIXINMA?

            信用棋牌TASHUO:“WOBUXIANGRANGBIERENLIJIEWO,ZHEIGESHIERTAIKEPALE。”

            余秀华

            对话余秀华:小时候担心原子弹会不会把我炸了

            “故事可以虚构,情感虚构不了”

            凤凰网文化:新书叫《无端欢喜》,这是你平时的一个状态吗?没有什么理由就高兴。

            YUXIUHUA:QISHIWOPINGSHIDEZHUANGTAISHIWUDUANLEILIU。(XIAO)WOJUEDEWULUNSHIWUDUANHUANXIHAISHIWUDUANBEISHANG,DOUSHIYUANYUDUISHENGMINGDEREAI。HUANXIHAOXIANGGENGHAOYIDIAN,BUYAONEIMECANXIXIDE。   

            凤凰网文化:你现在还住在横店,对吧?

            YUXIUHUA:DUI。

            凤凰网文化:平常的一天是怎么度过的?几点起床?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:WOJINNIANGUODEHENWEIMI,QICHUANGDESHIJIANHENSHAO,DABUFENSHIJIANDOUZAICHUANGSHANGDUGUO。WOJINNIANSHENTIJIUBUTAIHAO,JINGSHENHENKUNJUAN,SHENTIHENKUNJUAN,CHULESHIGE,XIEBIEDEDONGXIHENSHAO。

            凤凰网文化:新书里没有今年写的文章吧?  

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:ZHEISHIJINNIANCAICHUDE,SHIQIANJINIANLULUXUXUXIEDE。

            凤凰网文化:我看你在《收获》上发表了一篇自传体小说……  

            YUXIUHUA:XIAOSHUOSHIQIANNIANXIEDE。

            凤凰网文化:那发得比较晚。

            YUXIUHUA:WOJUEDEZIJIXIEBUHAO,YEMEINACHULAIJIRENKAN。YOUYITIANHE《SHOUHUO》DEBIANJIPENGSHANGLE,WOSHUONENGBUNENGBAWODESHIGEFANGZAI《SHOUHUO》SHANGBIAN,RENJIASHUO《SHOUHUO》ZHIFAXIAOSHUOBUFASHIGE,WOJIUSHUOWOYEXIEGUOXIAOSHUO,DANSHIXIEDEHENCHA,BUNENGJIBIERENKAN,TASHUOBUYAOJIN,JIWOKANKANBEI,FANZHENGWOSHIMEIZHIWANGNENGFA。JIEGUOWODEMINGQIBATADETOUJICHONGHUNLE,TANAJIZHUBIANKAN,ZHUBIANFEICHANGXIHUAN,JIUFALE,DOUSHIBEIWODEXINGYUNJICHONGHUNLETOULE。

            凤凰网文化:你说写得不好,怎么个不好法?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:ANZHAOWOMENZHONGGUOCHUANTONGXIAOSHUODEBIAOZHUNLAIKAN,TABUHAO。TAMEIYOUDUOSHAOSHEJIGAN,HENDUODONGXIJIUZHIJIEXIECHULAI,MEIYOUTAIDUODEXUGOU,RUGUOZAIRANGWOXIE,WOKENENGHUIXIEYIBUXUGOUDEDONGXI。

            凤凰网文化:“文体跨界”正好是我想问的一个问题,当年余秋雨出版《借我一生》时抛出了“记忆文学”的说法,结果遭受了不少质疑,大家觉得记忆与文学之间存在着虚构和非虚构的基本写作伦理鸿沟,你怎么看?

            YUXIUHUA:SHIA,ZHEIGEWENTIWOYEXIANGBUTONG。XIAOSHUODAODISHISHENMEDONGXI?SHIGEDAODISHISHENMEDONGXI?SHIGENIKEYIBATAGUIWEIYUYANDEYISHU,NEIMEXIAOSHUONI?XIAOSHUOSHIBUSHIYUYANDEYISHU?XUGOUJIUSHIYIZHONGQINGXU,YIZHONGGANXIANG,GUSHIKEYIXUGOU,QINGGANXUGOUBULE,KEYIZHEIYANGJIANG。

            凤凰网文化:这本散文集里你提到一句话让我印象深刻,你说你不太喜欢不明朗的、把握不了的事情,对吧?

            YUXIUHUA:WOSHITEBIEBUXIHUANNEIZHONGSHAOWEIFUZAYIDIANDERENJIGUANXI,YUDAOWOJIUTOUTENGDEYAOMING,HENBUDETAOPAO,SHENMEPENGYOU、NVXINGZHIJIANDESHIQING,FEICHANGFANGAN。WOSHIYIGETEBIEZHIJIEHEJIANDANDEREN,WOJUEDEYINGGAIXIANGGANMAJIUGANMA,ZHIJIELEDANG。

            凤凰网文化:那你有时候表现出的桀骜不驯,“关你屁事”这种,是对你掌握不了的事情的一个应对吗?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:WOBUZHIDAOZHEIYANGHAOBUHAO,DANWOJUEDEZUORENJIUYINGGAIZHEIYANG。YIGEREN,TAKENENGZAIZHEIGERENSHIJIANHUODELEMINGLI,HUODELEYIXIESHEHUIDIWEI,DANZHEIXIEWEIBINENGGOUMANZUTAZIJIDEKUAIGAN。DANGRANYOUSHIHOUKEYIMANZU,DANSHIBUZHANGJIU,HENDUANZAN。GENGDUODESHIHOUZIJISHIGUDUDEGETI,ZUOWEIYIGERENNIRUGUOCHUCHUBEIBIERENSUOQIANZHIDEHUAWOJUEDEHENSHIBAI,HENBUZHIDE。

            SUOYIFEICHANGXIHUANNEIXIEJIEAOBUXUNDEREN,ZHIYAOTABUQUWEIHAISHEHUI,BUQUWEIHAIBIERENJIUKEYILE,WOJUEDEZHEISHIZUIHAODESHENGHUOZHUANGTAI。DANGRAN,WOBUYIDINGZUODEDAO,WOHENXIANGZUODAO,WOXIANZAIYOUHENDUOJIUJIEDESHIHOU,BIRUSHUOWOWANSHANGHUIWEIYIJIANSHIJIUJIEDESHUIBUZHE,BAITIANNIMENLAICAIFANGWO,WOYOUHUIFUCHENGZHEIGE(YIQIEMEISHIDE)YANGZI。

            凤凰网文化:遇到别人的批评就反击,有没有想过这样会显得不好?可能在别人看来是听不进批评?

            YUXIUHUA:YAOSHIWOBA,WOJIURENZHE。DANSHIXIANGBIEREN,HEWOBAGANZIDABUZHEGUANXIDE,WOJIUXIANG,BUGUANNIPIPINGDESHIDUISHICUO,NIDOUMEIYOUZIGEPIPINGWO。BUGUANNIXIEDEBIWOHAO,HAISHIBUBIWOHAO,NIMEIYOUZIGEDUIWOZHISHOUHUAJIAO。WOSHENGQI,WOXIANGSHUOSHISHEIJINIDEPIPINGQUANLI?NIDUIYIGERENGENBENBULEJIE,SHENZHIBUDUTADESHIGE,NINALAIDEQUANLILAIPIPING?NIMEIYOU。

            凤凰网文化:回击是一种自我保护吗?

            YUXIUHUA:HUIJIBIERENBUSHIBAOHU,SHIDUIZIWODEYIZHONGSHANGHAI,ZUIHAODEBAOHUSHIBUSHUOHUA,NIYISHUOHUAKENENGHUIYINLAIGENGDUODESHENGYIN。DANSHIWOZUOBUDAO,XINGGEZUOBUDAOZHEIDIAN。

            凤凰网文化:在回应一个事情之前会跟朋友商量吗?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:WOGENHENDUOPENGYOUSHANGLIANG,YOUDEPENGYOUJIUSHUO,BIELITA,NIYAOZHUANGSHUNV,WOSHUOSHUNVYEBUSHIZHUANGCHULAIDE,WOJIUMEIDASUANZHUANGCHENGSHUNV,WOJIUZHUANGGEPOFU。

            凤凰网文化:说到泼妇这个词,我昨天正好看到你的文章里写,你说你本身就是个农妇,农民的劣根性,你是有的。

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:ZHEIGEWOHENBUAITING。

            凤凰网文化:你自己写的。

            YUXIUHUA:SHIWOXIEDE,WOSHUONONGMINDELIEGENXINGSHIZHIGUOQUSHOUJIAOYUDECHENGDUDI,HUXIANGCHAOJIADESHIHOUMACHUDENEIXIENANTINGHUA,WOGUJINIDOUMEITINGGUO。NONGCUNZAIMAZHANDESHIHOUZHENDEANGZANG,RENDEXIAAIQUANBUDOUZHANXIANCHULAILE。

            凤凰网文化:那你觉得现实生活中有人真的能够特别理解你吗?也就是大家常说的走进你的灵魂这种?   

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:ZHEIGEWOYEBUZHIDAO,WOBUQIUBIERENNENGLIJIEWO。YIGERENTAKENENGZAIYIJIANSHISHANGLIJIENIDEXIANGFA,DANSHIHUANLINGYIJIANSHITAYOUBULIJIELE,BUKENENGWANQUANLIJIEDE。WOYEBUXIANGRANGBIERENLIJIEWO,ZHEIGESHITAIKEPALE。

            凤凰网文化:为什么不想让别人理解?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:BUZHIDAO,WOJUEDEMEISHENMEHAOCHU,LIJIEWOYOUSHENMEHAO?

            凤凰网文化:很多痛苦的源头不就是觉得别人不理解你,所以很孤独吗?

            YUXIUHUA:HELIJIEMEIYOUGUANXI,SHIRENYURENZHIJIANDEGUANXINIBUXIHUAN,NIBUXIHUANZHEIZHONGGUANXINICAIHUITONGKU,BINGBUSHIBIERENLIBULIJIENI。RENHENQIANBODE,NIYIGEQIANBODERENQULIJIELINGWAIYIGEQIANBODERENYOUSHAYISI?HAOWUYIYI。

            凤凰网文化:你以前说自己是有一个封闭的自我世界的,现在还是这样觉得吗?

            YUXIUHUA:YIGERENYONGYUANSHIFENGBIDE,JIUSUANNIXIANZAIKANQILAIHUICANJIAHENDUOHUODONG,HUIJIESHOUYIXIECAIFANG,DANQISHINEIXINHEZHEIXIESHIQINGMEISHENMEGUANXI,YOUZIJIDUTEDEYIGETIXI,HENSHAONENGYOURENJINLAI。WOBUZHIDAOWOZHEIGENIANJISHIBUSHIXINXINGTEBIECUIRUODESHIHOU,XUYAOYIGEZIJIHEZIJIXIANGCHUDEGUOCHENG。YEXUNIANJIDALEZHIHOU,HUIHAIPAGUDU,ZHEIYOUBUYIDINGLE。

            余秀华在《朗读者》的舞台上跟董卿互动

            “我生活在一个好年代”

            凤凰网文化:之前你说因为你的手写起字来很费劲,所以才选择诗这种形式,因为诗是所有文体里字数最少的。

            YUXIUHUA:DUI。

            凤凰网文化:现在也写散文和小说,还挺长的,是因为用电脑方便多了?

            YUXIUHUA:SHIA,WOJUEDEWOSHENGHUOZAIYIGEHAONIANDAI,NIANJIDADETAYUBUSHANGZHEIXIEDONGXI,WOHAODAIYUSHANGLE,TINGHAO。

            凤凰网文化:这个年代各方面更加便利,也能让更多人看到你的诗了。

            YUXIUHUA:NEIGEWOCAIBUGUAN,TAMENYINGGAIGANXIEWO。SHIGEZHEIMEDUONIANDOUSHIYIZHONGHENWENYIDEZHUANGTAI,SUOYITAXUYAOZHAOYIGEBIANTAIDERENLAICIJIYIXIA。SUOYIZHAOWOLAICIJIYIXIA。

            凤凰网文化:很多人喜欢你的诗歌。

            YUXIUHUA:WOGUANTAMENXIHUANWOSHENMENI!HAODUORENCHUYUYIZHONGHAOQIBA,TAMENHUIJUEDEYIGENONGFU,HAISHIGENAOTAN,TAMENYOUSHIHOUJIUBANAOTANHENAOCANLIANXIZAIYIQI,YIGEHUADOUSHUOBUQINGCHUDERENWEISHENMEHUIXIESHINI,TAMENXIANGKANKANSHISHAYANGZIDE。ZHEIGEWOBUZAIYI。WOXIANZAIHAIXIANGJIESHIYIGEWENTI,NAOTANBUSHINAOCAN。

            凤凰网文化:的确,很多人是对“余秀华”这个现实生活中的人(也就是你作为诗人的“个人史”)感兴趣。那么现在我知道作家张悦然正在办一个“匿名写作”的比赛,彻底把作者的名字隐去,你想过要匿名一把吗?这样别人就不会关注你的身份了。

            YUXIUHUA:WOHAISHIKEYIRANGBIERENYIXIAZIJIUKANCHULAISHIWODE。WOJUEDEYIGERENXIEZUODESHIHOUYIDINGYAOXINGCHENGZIJIDEFENGGE,RANGBIERENKEYICONGRENQUNLIBANIRENCHULAI,JIUXIANGYIGEBIAOZHIYIYANG。

            凤凰网文化:所以并不愿意把你的诗跟你的身份剥离开?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:NAGESHIRENHUIRANGZIJIDEMINGZIHEZIJIDESHIGEBOLINI?WODESHIGEDAOXIANZAIBINGBUGAOYUDUOSHAOREN,ZHEISHIKENDINGDE,BINGBUBIBIERENGAOMINGHENDUO。

            信用棋牌DANGRANLE,YEBUCHA,SHUYUZHONGJISHUIPING,NIBAMINGZIBOLICHUQU,YOUDESHIHOUHUIRENCHULAIZHEIGESHIYUXIUHUAXIEDE,YOUDESHIHOURENBUCHULAI。YINWEIWOXIESHIDEFENGGEBUJINYIZHONG,ERQIEXIANZAIWOYEZAIBUTINGDICHANGSHIBIANHUA。

            凤凰网文化:现在的诗里面爱情诗居多。

            YUXIUHUA:SHIJIUSHIZHEIYANGCHENGDE,BIRUDUIZHEIGERENDONGLEXINWOXIEXIALAILE,HAIMEIYOUGUOJITIAN,WANLE,WANLEDEGUOCHENGWOMEIYOUXIE,NEISHIYIGEHENFANXINDEGUOCHENG。

            凤凰网文化:你的作品与情感密切相关,但情感是很不稳定的,会不会担心有天感情被透支了,就没的可写呢?

            YUXIUHUA:WOJUEDEQINGSHIKEYIXIE,BIEDEDONGXIYEKEYIXIE。SHUOBUDINGWOYUSHANGNAGERENYOUYIXIAJIUXIHUANTALE,YOUXIEHENDUOQINGSHI。NIBUJUEDEHENDUOZUOZHEDOUSHIZHEIYANGMA?TAXIHUANYIGERENDESHIHOUXIELEHENDUOSHI,YINWEIZHEIGERENSHITADELINGGAN,DANZHEIBINGBUSHISHUOTAMENLIANGGEJIUZENMEYANGLE。

            凤凰网文化:那肯定。你说你想尝试写别的类型的诗,是什么样的?

            YUXIUHUA:SHIGEHAISHIYAOXIESHENGHUO,JIJIE、DONGWU、ZHIWU,ZHEIYANGDEDONGXI。DANSHIWOXIANG,SUOYOUDESHIGEDOUYINGGAIGUIJIEWEIQINGSHI。WEISHENMENI?YINWEIYOUGANQINGCAIKEYIXIESHI,MEIYOUGANQINGXIEBULE。

            凤凰网文化:你觉得在写作上,你靠的是天分还是后期的学习?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:WOBUZHIDAOTIANFENSHISHENME,WOHOUQIDEXUEXIYEBUDUO,JIUXILIHUTUDE。XIANGTAMENYOUDERENSHUO,YINIANNENGKANJIBAIBENSHU,WOXINXIANG,WOYINIANKANJIBENJIUJUEDEHENHAOLE。

            凤凰网文化:以前看的书都是从哪里来的?

            YUXIUHUA:WOYIQIANKANSHUHENSHAO,ZHENDESHIMEIQIAN,BUGANXIAHUAQIAN,JIBENSHANGBUMAISHU,BUMAIYIFU,JIUNEIYANGGUORIZI。

            凤凰网文化:都没怎么看别人的就自己写了?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:MEIKAN,WOJIBENSHANGZAIXIESHIDESHIHOUMEIDUGUOSHI。

            凤凰网文化:那就是天分了。

            YUXIUHUA:MEIBANFA。

            凤凰网文化:很多人写作的时候,倒不是说模仿,但他肯定会受某个人影响比较深,所以在你这里不存在这样一个人?

            YUXIUHUA:DANGSHIKANHAIZIDESHI,DANKANDEBUSHIHENDONG,JUEDEHAIZIHAIXINGBA。DANDAOHOULAIWOKANCHULETASHIGEDEHENDUOMAOBING,YOUBUXIHUANLE。

            凤凰网文化:什么毛病呢?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:TADEXIANGXIANGLIMEIYOUWENTI,BIAODADEFANGSHIMEIYOUWENTI,DANSHIYUYANBENSHENYOUWENTI。

            凤凰网文化:语言本身有什么问题?

            YUXIUHUA:YOUBINGJUNIMEIKANCHULAIMA?

            凤凰网文化:写诗本来不就要创造语言?

            YUXIUHUA:CUO。XIESHIQIAHAOSHIYAOBAHUASHUOQINGCHU,BINGBUSHICHANSHENGBINGJU。WEISHENMEHUIJUEDESHIBINGJU?YINWEITASHUODEDAOLINITINGBUDONG,NIHUIJUEDEAOKOU。HENDUOXIAOSHIRENHUIJUEDESHIGESHIYUYANDEYISHU,JIUBAZIJIYUYANXIEDEMOSHENGHUA,ZHUIQIUCIYUDEMOSHENGHUA,TAHUIJUEDESHIHAOSHI。QISHIBUSHIZHEIYANGDE,XIANZAOCIYUHAISHIYOUDUOZHONGWENTIDE,ZHEIYANGDEDOUBUSHIHAOSHI。YAODESHIYIXIANGDEMOSHENGHUA,BUSHIBINGJU。HENDUOSHIHOUWOMENWUYIDIBAGAOLEYIGEREN,DANGRANNIRUGUOXIANZAIQUPIPINGHAIZI,TAMENHUIBANIMASI。

            凤凰网文化:中国人讲究死者为大。

            YUXIUHUA:WOJUEDEZHEIYANGSHUOHENSHA,YOUYICIWOMAWANGGUOZHEN,BEIWODEFENSIMALE。

            凤凰网文化:汪国真有很多粉丝。

            YUXIUHUA:DUI,ERQIETADEFENSITONGSHIHAISHIWODEFENSI。

            凤凰网文化:有没有想过你的粉丝都是什么样的人?

            YUXIUHUA:WODEFENSINVXINGJUDUO,NVXINGSANFENZHIYI,HEWONIANJICHABUDUODEDOUYOUYIBUFEN,RANHOUXUESHENGZAIYIBUFEN。

            凤凰网文化:你的身体状况让你写诗的时候多了一些内容,可以这样讲吧?  

            YUXIUHUA:GANWUYAOSHENYIDIAN,GANWUDEJIAODUHUIBUYIYANGYIXIE,DANSHITAYEXUGENGJIEJINBENZHI,YEXUBIANDELIBENZHIGENGYUAN。

            凤凰网文化:身体状态对写作还有没有更深层的影响?语言风格,精神结构……

            YUXIUHUA:KENDINGYOU,MEIGERENDETIZHIDEBUYIYANG,DOUHUICHANSHENGYINGXIANG,ZHEISHIKENDINGDE。YINWEINIDESHENTIHEQINGXUHEXUANZEDOUSHILIANXIZAIYIQIDE。

            信用棋牌QISHIWOJUEDEXIANGWOMENZHEIZHONGXIANTIANCANJI,ZAIXUANZEZHIQIANTAJIUPEIYULENIDEXINGGE,MINGANDEXINGGEZAIXIAODESHIHOUJIUYIJINGPEIYANGCHULAILE。

            凤凰网文化:除了敏感,还有别的吗?

            YUXIUHUA:HAIYOUJIAOLV。XIAOSHIHOUYIFANGMIANSHIMIXIN,YOURENSHUONIZHEIGESHENTIDECANJISHINIQIANSHIZUOLEHUAISHILE,ZHEIBEIZISHOUCHENGFA。

            凤凰网文化:谁跟你讲的这种话?

            YUXIUHUA:WOBABAZHAONEIXIEXINSHENDEREN,TAMENDOUZHEIYANGJIANG。LINGYIFANGMIAN,NEISHIHOUBUSHIGANGGANGFAMINGLEYUANZIDAN,1964NIANZHONGGUOBAOZHALEDIYIKEYUANZIDAN,WOJIUCHENGTIANTINGTAMENJIANGYUANZIDANYIFACHULAIJIUKEYIBAQUANSHIJIEHUIMIE,WODANXINHUIBUHUIBAWOZHALE。DAOLESHANGXUE,JIUKAISHIJIAOLVCHENGJIBUHAO。

            凤凰网文化:你当时成绩不好吗?

            YUXIUHUA:JIUSHIJIAOLV,SHENGPAZIJICHENGJIBUHAO,DUIZIJIYAOQIUYOUDIANGAO,PAZIJICHENGJIXIAJIANGLE。HAIYOUJIUSHI,NEISHIHOUYEHUIDUIWEILAICHANSHENGQIDAI,SHUOWEILAIWOZHEIGESHENTIZENMEBAN?ZONGZHIJIUSHIYIZHIHENJIAOLV。DAOLEJIEHUNYIHOU,GENGJIAOLVLE,YOUHENDUOSHIJIAOLVDEHEN。

            余秀华

            成名带来最大的收获是金钱

            凤凰网文化:假如让你选,身体没问题,但也可能没出名,你更想要哪一种?

            YUXIUHUA:RUGUOMEIYOUSHENTIWENTI,WOXIANZAIYINGGAIHENIMENCHABUDUO,SHIYIGEHENHAODEHENYOUNENGLIDEGONGZUOZHE,ZHEIGEBUKEFOUREN。DANSHIRUGUOWENHUAJIYINZAIWODESHENTILIDEHUA,WOYIYANGHUIXIESHI,WOJUEDEYIGERENDEAIHAOSHITIANSHENGDE,BUGUANNIZUOSHENMEGONGZUO。WOSHIGENONGMIN,WOXIESHI,DANRUGUOWOSHENTIHAO,WOZIJIKAILEGEGONGSI,WOHAISHIHUIXIESHI。XIESHISHIWODEZIRANLIULU。

            凤凰网文化:出名这件事,你觉得给你带来的最好的部分是什么?是钱吗?

            YUXIUHUA:NEIKENDINGQIANSHIZUIZHONGYAODE,NISHUOYIGERENYOUMINGSHENGMEIYOUQIANTAYAOMINGSHENGGANMA?DUIBA?

            凤凰网文化:你现在算是比较有钱的吗?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:BUSUAN,BITAMENCHAYUANLE。

            凤凰网文化:比谁们?

            YUXIUHUA:WOZHUNBEIJIERZIMAIGEFANGZI,DANSHOUFUHAIYOUWENTI。

            凤凰网文化:房子想买在哪里?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:ZAIWUHAN。DENGWOERZIWENDINGXIALAIZAISHUO,WOERZIYEBUJI,WOYEBUJI,WOYEBUXIANGTAJIEHUN,JIELEHUNHENMAFANDE。

            凤凰网文化:他肯定是不会回农村了吧?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:XIANZAIMEIYOUNONGCUNLE。NIKANNEIXIEDUGUOSHUDENAYOUHUINONGCUNDE?RUGUOHUIQULEZHINENGWOYANGTA。XINNONGCUNJIANSHE,BAWOMENJIADEDIQUANBUZHENGLE,DENGYUWOMENJIAXIANZAIQISHISHIMEIYOUDIDE。

            凤凰网文化:爸爸也不干农活了?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:WOBABAXIANZAIDAGONGLE。BIERENYOUGEPUTAOYUAN,TAZAIZHEIGEPUTAOYUANLIGANCHUCAODAYAOZHEIXIESHI。

            凤凰网文化:你文章里写,现在不太见得到前夫了对吧?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:DUI。WOYEBUXIANGJIANTA。

            凤凰网文化:他一直在外地打工,所以虽然在同个村子也见不到?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:TASHUOTAJINNIANGAOLEDIANQIANHUIQUZHONGSHU。

            凤凰网文化:你怎么知道的?你俩还有联系?

            YUXIUHUA:TAGENWOBALIANXI。ZAILIHUNZHIQIANTAJIUBUHEWOLIANXILE,TADOUGENWOBALIANXI。TAZHEIGERENBA,BUZIXIN,SHENMESHIDOUYILAIWOBA。

            凤凰网文化:在之前的一个采访里,范俭说你前夫即使打工也不思进取,在工地上打工也分上等活儿、下等活儿。

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:TAJIUHUIBANZHUAN,JISHUHUOYIYANGDOUBUHUI。

            凤凰网文化:看那篇文章的时候我就想,他其实搬砖也很累,对吧?

            YUXIUHUA:SHIA。

            凤凰网文化:我们其实很难要求一个人一定要有上进心,他难道不想轻松一点吗?在要求上进心这件事上,是不是有点苛刻了?

            YUXIUHUA:DANGSHIWOBAHAIMEIXUEGUOQIQIANG,DANWOBAZIJIDOUHUI,YINWEIWOBATAINENGGANLE。JIEHUNYIHOUTA(QIANFU)SHENMEDOUBUHUI,WOBAJIUJIAOTA,JIAOTAHAODUOYEJIAOBUHUI。TABUSHIJIXINGZHEIFANGMIANDEWENTI,TASHIXUEBUJINQU,YEBUYONGXINXUE,ZHENSHIGAOBUDONG。

            信用棋牌MEIYOUJINQUXIN,TAPIQIHAIDA,ZHEIJIUHENMAFAN。ZIXIYIXIANG,NICONGRENDEXINGGELAIFENXITA,SHICHENGLIDE。BIRUTAMEIYOUJINQUXINBIAOXIANCHULAISHIZIBEI,DANTAYOUJUEDEWOSHIGEREN,NIWEISHENMEBUZUNZHONGWO,YOUHUIYOUZIZUN,ZIZUNHEZIBEIHUIFANGZAITONGYIGESHIQINGSHANG,ZHEIYANGPIQIJIUHENDA。QISHIWOYESHI,BIERENMAWO,WOKENDINGHAIRENJIA,ZHEIJIUSHIBUZIXINDEBIAOXIAN。QISHISHUOQILAI,WOHETADEXINGGESHIYIYANGDE。

            凤凰网文化:在之前的一个采访里,范俭(纪录片《摇摇晃晃的人间》导演,编者注)提到你为一个喜欢的男人很伤心。

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:DANGSHIXIHUANDESHISHEI?

            凤凰网文化:我不知道啊,没说名字。

            YUXIUHUA:NEIWOZAOJIUWANGJILE,XIHUANYIGERENBUHUICHAOGUOSANTIAN。

            凤凰网文化:那这能是真喜欢吗?

            YUXIUHUA:XIHUANYIGERENDESHIHOU,XINXIANG,WOZHEIBEIZIJIUXIHUANTALE,WULUNTAYIHOUDUIWOZENMEYANGWODOUXIHUANTA。JIEGUOGUOBULEDUOJIUJIUJUEDE,ZHEIGESHAX。

            凤凰网文化:成名以后,你会更接近爱情吗?或者说爱情会变得更容易一些吗?

            信用棋牌YUXIUHUA:MEIYOU,WOZHEIMEDUONIANMEIJIEJINGUOAIQING,ZHISHIOUERHUICHANSHENGYIXIECHONGDONGHUOZHEQINGGAN。RUGUOSHEIXIANZAISHUOXIANGHEWOJIEHUN,WOHUICHETUIJIUPAO,HAIPAHUNYIN。WOJUEDEZIJITEBIEMAODUN,WOTEBIEKEWANGAIQING,DANSHIWOYOUTEBIEKONGJUHUNYIN。

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